I dream in code. I believe when God created the universe He had a voice controlled MAC to do all the work. :D So Are there any other programmers out here? I design and program websites (mainly written in C#), but have touched php, asp, vb. I do enjoy writing computer programs. So how do we start a discussion? No I think both MAC and PC's are great (I have both) and run XP pro on my MacBook Pro to program. I do enjoy discussing programming architecture and design. So lets ask questions. Shout ideas. Lets Geek speak. Be proud to be a christian geek.ps. It would be interesting to see how many left brain people enjoy right brain activities.