I saw this online, and knew I had to share.
Why it had to be "Peanuts" I don't know, but I thought the gag was brilliant nonetheless.
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I saw this online, and knew I had to share.
Why it had to be "Peanuts" I don't know, but I thought the gag was brilliant nonetheless.
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@Alika, huh? I might be a little dull but how does that scripture quote answer Sven's question....
Galatians 2:16, 19-20
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Ralph Ellis Miley said:
Alika, again, you are more and more interesting to me with each post...
Now, if you weren't saying that the law (Old Testament) is not relevant or applicable to us - or no longer relevant or applicable to us - then I daresay that we are in agreement. But you maintained when I appealed to Proverbs that not following Proverbs does not count as sin, insofar as it is in the Old Testament, which is ludicrous.
Even after Romans 7:6 - which doesn't in and of itself revoke the Law, or deny its practicality, or nullify its standard of holiness and goodness, or censure the need for our obedience to it - we find that Paul still says that he desires to follow it. And again, in every instance that Paul or some other apostle contrasts being "under the Law" with "following the Spirit," they are not contrasting obedience to the Old Testament with a revocation of the Old Testament for the sake of some new standard. Being "under the law" means to rely on its system to save oneself, to be under the curse and condemnation of it (since no one can follow it), and for sin to have dominion over us (which is what Paul said occurred in 7:7ff). The contrast is between the man who supposes that the Mosaic system (or I suppose, any system) can save a man, and the man who is renewed and regenerated and justified and subjectively sanctified through the quickening and work of the Holy Spirit. Nowhere here is the Apostle attempting to say that we now have license to ignore the decrees of the Old Testament because of some strange and newfound liberality of the Spirit, one that directs us but apparently doesn't need to direct us to follow the precepts and principles outlined in the Old Testament.
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
With that in mind, the verse makes sense, while an interpretation that assumes we can ignore the Old Testament commands betrays the outside context. Even explicitly, this verse says nothing about us not following the law, and instead focuses in on being delivered from it (which is not the same thing) and serving in the Spirit and not in the letter (which is not the same thing).
So rebuking and correcting others by appealing to the Old Testament (1 Timothy 3) makes sense because serving in the Spirit envelopes obeying the law, it's just that obeying the law in and of itself will not save us, which is what Paul is saying.
Alika Parsons said:
Paul Philpott JR said:
Romans 8:1-14
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
There are really two laws under the old testament. the ceramonial law and the moral law. These two laws are collectively known as the Law of Moses. all of the Ceramonial laws pointed to the coming of Jesus which included the sacrifices, sabbath keeping among many others. These were all fulfilled when Jesus was crucified and are no longer in effect. The moral law is covered in 9 of the 10 commandments. These are universal laws that apply to everyone at all times. The purpose of the Law of Moses was to show us our need for God's forgiveness, never as a means for salvation. its purpose was to show us how far we fall short of God's standard. Jesus fuffilled the ceramonial law in his birth sacrifice and ressurrection and kept the moral law perfectly therefore fullfilling the whole law. we are now under the law of grace but we are still under moral law, but not the ceremonial law.
Sven Jacobs said:
...Not what I'm saying. Read-
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
@Sven- Thanks for posting Jesse Hamm's strip. Jesse is brilliant and a nice guy.
@Sven, Paul, Nickerson, even Maffett can get in on this; and everyone else using OT law, pls chew on this:
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
and also:
This is why Jesus came so we could be free from having to live up to something(the Law[OT]) we could never fulfill! Telling people to follow all the advice given in the OT(tho it is great advice) -otherwise it's a sin- is incorrect. Instead, we should focus our time & energy into doing what the Holy Spirit leads us to do. As opposed to rituals or legalisms, which is back to working your way into heaven, like every other religion on the planet.
Alika, you become more and more interesting after every post!
Nevertheless, you and your antinomianism is wrong. I use the Old Testament when making justifications because "all Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." If no one is under any aspect of the Law (or Old Testament, as *you* define "law" as it is used in Galatians), then how can it be used as a means of rebuke? What authority does it have that Christ didn't already supposedly fulfill and then, by your reasoning, nullify as far as our participation in it is concerned? Also, if Galatians 5:18 means that the Old Testament has no practical application for us, then what are we to make of its surrounding context?
For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity to indulge your flesh, but through love serve one another. For the whole law can be summed up in a single commandment, namely, “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” However, if you continually bite and devour one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another. But I say, live by the Spirit and you will not carry out the desires of the flesh. For the flesh has desires that are opposed to the Spirit, and the Spirit has desires that are opposed to the flesh, for these are in opposition to each other, so that you cannot do what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Paul argues FROM THE LAW and by the SUMMARY OF THE LAW in order to explain how people should act, specifically with love for other people. The Law, that is, the Old Testament, is not being revoked here. It is being underscored, lauded, extolled, praised, highlighted, and emphasized. No commentator, from Matthew Henry, to John Gill, to John Calvin, to Martin Luther, takes "under the law" to mean that someone does not need to follow the law. The idiom "under the law" is used multiple times in Romans and in Galatians not to refer to people who are obedient the Law, but to refer to people who trust in their own works for salvation and whose sin has dominion over them - Paul even says that EXPLICITLY here. Not being under the Law doesn't mean you're above the Law. In no instance where "under the law" is used does Paul or some other apostle assert that we are free from obeying the Old Testament Scriptures - in EVERY instance, the context points to a people who rely on salvation through works and are enslaved to their sin, not a people who follow the Law in love for Christ. Every time the Law is referenced in Galatians in contrast to Christ, it is referenced by its impotence to justify and save a Man. But again, just because the Law cannot save us, doesn't mean we are free to dishonor it! "Do we then nullify the law through faith? Absolutely not! Instead we uphold the law." And Jesus of course said that He did not come to abolish the Law, and that anyone who annuls them will be considered least in the Kingdom of Heaven. 1 Timothy 8 implies that we are to still follow the law and follow it appropriately.
So there!
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