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Searching for like-minded Christians who want to use their art to change the world as God has called us to I came upon this site. As a leader of the Visual Arts Ministry at the Columbus Vineyard in Columbus, OH I am always looking for professionals in varying art fields who wholeheartedly seek out Christ. We have been blessed to host almost a dozen of such people through personal connections and there are more in our area and church, yet, untapped. For more information on our ministry please visit www.VisualSanctuary.org.

However, my personal crusade to find  Christian professionals in the mainstream Comic Industry has yielded few returns. Perhaps some are on this site, but I am also open to suggestions on blogs, magazine/news articles, and preferrably interviews on podcasts, secular or Christian.

If you know of any, please post.

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  • Calvary Comics said:
    I found this on the 'net the other day. You know things are bad in secular comics when some of their top creators are saying the following (on the first I edited out the profanity; anything in parentheses contains the same general meaning as the original words, but sanitized):

    Comic Book Pros Shake Their Heads in Disgust

    "I want them to stop catering to the perverted needs of forty-five year old men. I want to stop seeing Batman (fornicating with) Black Canary. I don’t want to hear Batman swearing, I don’t want to see him feeding a boy rats, I don’t want to see characters getting raped in the (posterior), I don’t want to see characters who have been straight for sixty years become lesbians overnight because the writer’s too stupid or uncreative to come up with something decent, I want to see new characters for a new time, and when the industry of superhero comics realigns its sights to the young people it was meant for, I’ll be there with both arms and feet."

    – Darwyn Cooke

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/01/darwyn-cooke-and-the-lesbians/
    ------
    "I get all the DC books free...and don’t read most of them.

    "Part of it’s that they’re just not aimed at me — there are a lot of line-wide stunts that seem to affect all the books, which makes it hard to follow them as individual series, but at the same time there’s no apparent interest in building or maintaining a coherent universe. So whether you’re looking for self-contained series or want to wallow in the peculiar glories of a shared universe (and I like both), they’re presented in a way that messes up either thrill. At least for me.

    "Add to that the tone of the books, which seems to be overwhelmingly grim, cheerless and bleak, and it’s a sandbox I don’t much want to play in or read about. But like I said, they’re not aimed at me."

    - Kurt Busiek

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/08/28/a-new-name-withheld-for-the-...
    -----
    "Annnnd today was the day I stopped reading super-hero comics. One that I won’t name finally broke me. Collection stops as of now. No joke. It’s not one bad comic. It’s the unbearably last in a long string of bad comics. Just sick of reading the same story 100 times in the last three years. It’s been building. I didn’t say they were all bad. I said I’ve reached a limit."

    - Mark Waid

    http://twitter.com/MarkWaid/status/18088713004
    -----
    Look at this recent JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE RISE OF ARSENAL #3 (published by DC Comics) story transcript. It's remarkably stupid and insanely filthy (again, profanity euphemized in parentheses) :

    Writer: JT Krul. Pencils: Geraldo Borges, Kevin Sharpe & Sergio Arino.

    Page 1: Chesire shows up to theoretically kill Roy, blaming him for Lian’s death. They fight, and Roy’s thought captions on this page are about how hot she was in bed. No (kidding): ” Next to Kendra/Hawkgirl, Jade was the best in bed.” Chesire has poisonous fingernails that will kill you fairly instantly. She is shown scratching him with those fingernails, though he isn’t poisoned (?), and the scratch marks completely disappear on page 2 (??).

    Page 2 -7: they fight, to such scintillating dialogue as “Bite me, Jade.” and “You’re a skilled assassin, but as a mother — YOU SUCKED!”. Roy uses various things sitting around (a tennis racket, a stapler, an extension cord) to battle Chesire — this is apparently Roy’s new superpower, fighting with whatever junk is sitting around, which is excitingly McGyver-esque! Using the extension cord like a whip (which is OK, “She likes it ROUGH anyway”), he ties Chesire up, porn-submission-style. Then they make out, and start to (fornicate)….

    Page 8: .. except it turns out that he’s impotent!

    Chesire then disappears from the comic without another word or mention of her.

    Page 9: Since he can’t (copulate), he decides to go beat up guys. “I need a release.” and “For me, they serve their purpose” he thinks, as he sticks knives in faceless people’s arms.

    Page 10: full-page splash of Roy standing over a bunch of unconscious guys. “Much better” says the caption as Roy makes an O-face.

    Page 11: his dead junkie friend appears, and talks about the time they double-teamed a “couple of real skanks” in Nashville.

    Pages 12 & 13: His daughter dead, and his dead friend prodding him, Roy decides to jump down off the rooftop in full costume and buy some heroin from a street dealer.

    Page 14 & 15: he smokes heroin and nods out, in a two page spread.

    On the same thread, the readers were informed that the classic Spider-man villain, the Lizard (Dr. Curt Conners) ate his own son in a recent storyline.

    http://archives.tcj.com/messboard/viewtopic.php?t=7970

    The above Comics Journal thread is called "Comics aren't for kids anymore. They're for sick people." You know things are bad when even that crowd is crying foul.

    Some great stuff in this post. However, I don't agree with Christian creators fleeing the mainstream business though. The only way to make things better is to take some action. What does running away do? What kind of impact could just a few Christian creators make within the business?
  • I found this on the 'net the other day. You know things are bad in secular comics when some of their top creators are saying the following (on the first I edited out the profanity; anything in parentheses contains the same general meaning as the original words, but sanitized):

    Comic Book Pros Shake Their Heads in Disgust

    "I want them to stop catering to the perverted needs of forty-five year old men. I want to stop seeing Batman (fornicating with) Black Canary. I don’t want to hear Batman swearing, I don’t want to see him feeding a boy rats, I don’t want to see characters getting raped in the (posterior), I don’t want to see characters who have been straight for sixty years become lesbians overnight because the writer’s too stupid or uncreative to come up with something decent, I want to see new characters for a new time, and when the industry of superhero comics realigns its sights to the young people it was meant for, I’ll be there with both arms and feet."

    – Darwyn Cooke

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/01/darwyn-cooke-and-the-lesbians/
    ------
    "I get all the DC books free...and don’t read most of them.

    "Part of it’s that they’re just not aimed at me — there are a lot of line-wide stunts that seem to affect all the books, which makes it hard to follow them as individual series, but at the same time there’s no apparent interest in building or maintaining a coherent universe. So whether you’re looking for self-contained series or want to wallow in the peculiar glories of a shared universe (and I like both), they’re presented in a way that messes up either thrill. At least for me.

    "Add to that the tone of the books, which seems to be overwhelmingly grim, cheerless and bleak, and it’s a sandbox I don’t much want to play in or read about. But like I said, they’re not aimed at me."

    - Kurt Busiek

    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/08/28/a-new-name-withheld-for-the-...
    -----
    "Annnnd today was the day I stopped reading super-hero comics. One that I won’t name finally broke me. Collection stops as of now. No joke. It’s not one bad comic. It’s the unbearably last in a long string of bad comics. Just sick of reading the same story 100 times in the last three years. It’s been building. I didn’t say they were all bad. I said I’ve reached a limit."

    - Mark Waid

    http://twitter.com/MarkWaid/status/18088713004
    -----
    Look at this recent JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE RISE OF ARSENAL #3 (published by DC Comics) story transcript. It's remarkably stupid and insanely filthy (again, profanity euphemized in parentheses) :

    Writer: JT Krul. Pencils: Geraldo Borges, Kevin Sharpe & Sergio Arino.

    Page 1: Chesire shows up to theoretically kill Roy, blaming him for Lian’s death. They fight, and Roy’s thought captions on this page are about how hot she was in bed. No (kidding): ” Next to Kendra/Hawkgirl, Jade was the best in bed.” Chesire has poisonous fingernails that will kill you fairly instantly. She is shown scratching him with those fingernails, though he isn’t poisoned (?), and the scratch marks completely disappear on page 2 (??).

    Page 2 -7: they fight, to such scintillating dialogue as “Bite me, Jade.” and “You’re a skilled assassin, but as a mother — YOU SUCKED!”. Roy uses various things sitting around (a tennis racket, a stapler, an extension cord) to battle Chesire — this is apparently Roy’s new superpower, fighting with whatever junk is sitting around, which is excitingly McGyver-esque! Using the extension cord like a whip (which is OK, “She likes it ROUGH anyway”), he ties Chesire up, porn-submission-style. Then they make out, and start to (fornicate)….

    Page 8: .. except it turns out that he’s impotent!

    Chesire then disappears from the comic without another word or mention of her.

    Page 9: Since he can’t (copulate), he decides to go beat up guys. “I need a release.” and “For me, they serve their purpose” he thinks, as he sticks knives in faceless people’s arms.

    Page 10: full-page splash of Roy standing over a bunch of unconscious guys. “Much better” says the caption as Roy makes an O-face.

    Page 11: his dead junkie friend appears, and talks about the time they double-teamed a “couple of real skanks” in Nashville.

    Pages 12 & 13: His daughter dead, and his dead friend prodding him, Roy decides to jump down off the rooftop in full costume and buy some heroin from a street dealer.

    Page 14 & 15: he smokes heroin and nods out, in a two page spread.

    On the same thread, the readers were informed that the classic Spider-man villain, the Lizard (Dr. Curt Conners) ate his own son in a recent storyline.

    http://archives.tcj.com/messboard/viewtopic.php?t=7970

    The above Comics Journal thread is called "Comics aren't for kids anymore. They're for sick people." You know things are bad when even that crowd is crying foul.
  • Calvary Comics said:
    If you haven't seen it already, check out the "Secrets of Jonathan Sperry" DVD starring Gavin MacLeod, Robert Guillaume, and a number of child actors. It is a solidly crafted, genuinely sweet film with a wonderful Gospel message that really will touch your heart.

    Sorry for the delay of this reply. That is an excellent movie. We got it the week it came out. All the kids really enjoyed it, and so did we. The Sherwood pictures are good, too, but the little kids are bored by them. They weren't at all bored with Jonathan Sperry.
  • They produce more than just comics. They have one movie and several books in print. Their goal is to be a Christian media giant to reach as many people in the world as possible.
    Martin Murtonen said:
    I looked at the website - but it's unclear how to buy - do I order a catalog? Can I buy online...just didn't seem obvious at all.

    Oh - nevermind - Found the "Shop" button. But why isn't their stuff front and center?


    Martin
  • ...and of course we're leaving off Buzz Dixon (also in this network)...who'se broken creative bread with Stan Lee and been in the trenches longer than many on this site might have been alive (no offense, Buzz)!
  • I looked at the website - but it's unclear how to buy - do I order a catalog? Can I buy online...just didn't seem obvious at all.

    Oh - nevermind - Found the "Shop" button. But why isn't their stuff front and center?


    Martin
  • They have a website, and Art Ayris is in this group---look him up.

    Martin Murtonen said:
    Re: Kingstone - T'would be nice but how do you get any of their stuff?
  • Re: Kingstone - T'would be nice but how do you get any of their stuff?
  • There is a company that just might pull it off. Produce Christian comics of excellence and be successful at it. Check out Kingstone comics at : http://kingstonemedia.com/

    Calvary Comics said:
    Lee Weeks is one of my closest friends, and a mature brother in Christ. We've spoken on this topic of what has happened to secular comics (and other mainstream media) at length. The comic book (but not the comic strip) is an American invention, and more particularly, that of mostly Jewish New Yorkers. The stories they wrote show much Messianic longing in the form of Golden Age (1930s-50s) super-hero 'power fantasies,' giving gangsters, Nazis (and other Axis powers of WWII), and super villains a strong comeuppance where immediate justice in real life seemed to be lacking at times.

    God gave the Law, the prophets, and the Messiah to the Jews. The Jews are the chosen people of God; He has a land covenant with Israel, and, as evidenced in 1948, in 1967, and 1972, He fights for them. Prophesy must be fulfilled; God cannot lie. Still, there is no other way of salvation than through Messiah Y'shua (Jesus Christ), so earthly blessings do not equate with eternal salvation. Jew and Gentile alike must come to that Cornerstone and be broken (lest He fall upon them and they be ground to powder).

    The Jews are natural storytellers (and for good reason; they were to evangelize the world---but didn't---and if the 144,000 of Revelation are Messianic Jews, then they shall indeed do within a 3 1/2 year space what the Gentile believers failed to do in 2,000 years), and Jewish comic creators also know how to spin a good yarn with the best of them. Stan Lee raided the King James Version of the Bible for ideas in the 1960s (probably after writing five issues of BIBLE TALES FOR YOUNG FOLK in the '50s did he realize what a treasure trove of plots/characters the Bible is), and it is evident with titles like "If Thine Eye Offend Thee" or paraphrased spinoffs like "A Blind Man Shall Lead Them" (a Daredevil story); with characters like the Watcher (an angel is called a 'watcher' in the book of Daniel), and with stories of self-sacrifice for the benefit of others ("This Man...This Monster" from FANTASTIC FOUR #51, 1966 being a classic example). The Gospel isn't there, but many Biblical principles are there, and a generation of children and young-at-heart grew up with those being a character-shaping source.

    That's all gone now. The moral Jewish writers of the Golden and Silver age have been replaced with immoral and amoral 'hipsters' who do not know how to write noble or innocent characters, being depraved at heart themselves. Even sideline comic book characters are anti-heroes. Cynicism, eroticism, brutality, and the occult are in full flower. Now I don't have a rose-colored view of the past, as there were some titles that got out of hand in the '40s and '50s, hence the comics code of 1954, but the code pretty much lost its legs forever by the 1980s.

    What I've encouraged Lee Weeks to do is to write his own stories as well, as he has a good handle on what makes a crackling good yarn and the mechanics of visual storytelling, his Spider-man DEATH AND DESTINY mini-series being one such example, and I know he has more in the works. I think Scott McDaniel (a brother in Christ) and writer Chuck Dixon have paired up for similar reasons (not just economic, but moral). Most Christian artists in secular comics, however, do not have that benefit, and are often assigned scripts by ungodly but popular writers which they either turn down (a good way to eventually end a career) or they acquiesce and become callous to the Holy Spirit's leading.

    Someone earlier (perhaps in another thread) referred to drawing Christian comics as "preaching to the choir." Not so! I've had many unbelievers (and more importantly, genuine seekers) purchase my books, and at least one fellow comics professional gave his heart to the Lord as a direct result. These have given me many opportunities to share Christ with former editors, publishers, and fellow artists, writers, etc. in the secular industry, as well as on secular message boards, and good fruit has come of it. Ralph Miley has shared a number of testimonies of how the CCAS booth and comics there have provided an open door for evangelism at the San Diego Con and the like.

    No, I don't agree that we need more Christians in secular comics. Rather, I'd like to see the Lord's artistic workforce leave off toiling for "Pharaoh" and create openly Christ-exalting material that will glorify the Lord, edify the church, and challenge the lost. Too many siblings in Christ have told me that they're too busy with their secular work to do anything for God via comics. I understand and sympathize with supporting a family, but I believe God has greater for us---without neglecting our homelife responsibilities---if we consecrate ourselves in prayer and obedience to His Word, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

    Alec
  • Was going to mention Scott McDaniel and Chuck Dixon.

    I'll have to agree that mainstream comics are in a bind. There's talented people creating them, but how can so many talented people create such ugly stuff? They know how to draw, they know how to color, they know how to tell a story (for the most part) but it just looks UGLY. Ugly, bleak, depressing, savage, mean, crass. This can be SEEN. And makes for very difficult choice making at the comic shoppe.

    When the heroes have no hope, then what is there to hope for.

    Martin
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