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Comics of the next decade?

Let's face it, comic fads typically change decade to decade- and we're just beginning a new one.

 

During the last decade, one of the big movements was manga.  This was fun for those of us who had been manga fans and watched it come to prominence (and don't get me wrong, manga had a place in the 90's market).  But during this past year, there have been manga cutbacks through major players like DC and VIZ, let alone others of the past couple years including Tokyo Pop.

 

As much as I hate it, manga is not the new thing.  If we're going to stay players in the comics game during the next decade, how will it be?  It is true that fans of certain styles may always support that style to some degree- but this won't be the majority.    And while i'll admit that manga has a much bigger presence than it did in 2000, it has a smaller presence than it did in 2005.

 

Case in point, look at your favorite prominent 90's artist- you know, one of those who had tons of artists copying their style.  Where are they today?  some are around, but many are focused in arenas other than comics.  And maybe even a harder question is, where are those who imitated their style?  For most of them, i don't know, because I'm not seeing their work ANYWHERE!

 

So what do we, as relevant creators, do?  I think it's kind of like fashion.  You have to stay one step ahead if you want to be current.  So where is that step?

 

The truth is that for comics sales, pretty much all of the numbers are in A list Marvel and DC super heroes (keep in mind, not super heroes from other publishers and not other books from marvel or dc- for the most part) and then in licensened comics (such as Star Trek, Transformers).  This shows that people are typically only buying what they're familiar with.  Batman, X-Men, and Star Wars.

 

The reality is that the biggest promoted comic property at San Diego this year was an unlikely contender- in Scott Pilgrim by Bryan Lee O'Malley- a North American [which typically means "nonseller"] manga influenced indie comic which is not (really) about super heroes.  Just over 5 years ago he was letterring Oni books like Blue Monday, did a couple graphic novels for them, and then started his Scott Pilgrim series which has slowly grown to be what it is today.  And who has he captured with this series?  Young adult readers- including tons of girls- just the target market that people are seeking.  Now, granted that even tho much of that promo was from Universal and not from Oni, they surely did quite well.  CCAS was just around the corner from Oni, and there were solid lines for purchases throughout the con like I haven't seen before- and I've been following Oni books for years.  And I'll admit they sold a few new books to me with some good sales tactics- and I tend to be a conservative buyer of new comics.

 

But the question is always- will a popular movie translate to comic sales.  And typically the answer is no.  But the Pilgrim movie is different- it looks like a comic or video game.  It has the visual "bam" "pows" of the Adam West Batman for a new generration and in a new way which they can't do with Spider-Man or the Dark Knight.  But with Pilgrim it works, almost like a parody of comic book movies.  So i think that this lends to kids picking up the (affordable) GN's more than the super hero films.  Plus, the books are already conveniently packaged and displayed at Borders- and have been for the last six months.  You don't have to go to that weird, smelly shop with the unfriendly workers who make sexist and elitist remarks with the harder to deal with customers all day to find it.  So will this movie help the comics industry- we'll see.  But it is definitely a stronger comic connection than say, Jonah Hex or the Losers, which most people probably didn't know were connected to comics.

 

But even apart from the movie, Scott Pilgrim 6 looked to be one of the biggest sellers at comic con.  Gone are the days of 80's and 90's super heros, by far.  Sure there are fans of that style- but new readers aren't going towards it.  And even Marvel and DC have much different books coming out than they did in 2000.

 

So my question, fellow Christian comics people, is how can we engage this culture?  And all I can say is that we're going to have to be on the forefront of new comics stylings.  It can't be through the same old styles.  What worked five years ago is hardly working now and what worked 10 years ago isn't working at all.

 

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  • To me, drawing digitally is not just using Photoshop or Painter after you scan your work in. It's working from your computer from the start and finish - to creation n polish.


  • Yeah, I have you seen Sketchbook Pro for the Ipad. I recently seen a Jim Lee drawing with it. It depending on what digital drawing you're referencing. Most artist still scan their work into the computer than actual drawing with a wacom tablet.
  • Well I think the future is already here. Drawing digital has been my process for over 5+ years. Other people may have been doing it longer.
  • I don't think 3d is the total answer. Professionally, I'm a 3d artist and the production time to a drawing and rigging/texturing any given character is completing different - even with plugins. Drawing, either digitally or by hand, will be the future of comics. I think it goes back to knowing your target audience and actually targeting them. Just because you liked Charlie Brown when you was younger don't mean your current target likes the same. The comics of the next decade will be smart and unapologetic in it's approach. 


    Brian Jeffrey Durham said:

    3D... with the tools now present, it's possible that 3D will be the next thing.  It seems like the tools available make 3D the most viable option for efficiency with multiple types of digital media.  Logos, Print, Movies, Comic Books, and Game Characters could all come from a 3D program with minimal change and minimal effort.
  • I agree who you are as a person and what you like has to come out in the work, your personality. Your vision. Because it's what will make the content different from other stuff.

    Daniel Conner said:

    right on.

     

    if you can't write for yourself, i don't think you can write for anybody, because it may not be genuine and could come off as forced.  So even if it is a project that is not personal, it helps if you can find a place inside to harness it.

     

    that might be why some comics come off so bad. 

  • I think that you just have to make something of quality and that is addictive. Some samples are Harry Potter and Twilight.  Before Harry and Edward other books have been made just like that. Like the Ann Rice novels... but these out of nowhere titles were good so they stood out more than the rest. I don't know... to simplify it I think the next books that come out will just be really good and addictive, and it won't come from Marvel or DC because we are so used to them, plus they are focused on movies and gimmicks. something of quality and is heartfelt will be the next success.  People like the ideal of something new and different. To challenge our minds. Kinda like the Matrix when it 1st came out or Independence Day with the shock value of Blowing up the White House or Lord of the Rings...  These movies left a huge impact and copycats are always popping up.  But the next success is still in the making trust me.  Hopefully it will be christian.

  • right on.

     

    if you can't write for yourself, i don't think you can write for anybody, because it may not be genuine and could come off as forced.  So even if it is a project that is not personal, it helps if you can find a place inside to harness it.

     

    that might be why some comics come off so bad. 

  • This may be an extremely simple and naive view, but I like Scott McCloud's take on this question.  You have to write the story you want to read.  Chances are, it will take a while to catch on, but the best stories are the one's that the writers are most passionate about.
  • Hm... A little more thinking on the look/feel of new stuff - I think they might start looking like this:

     

    1. More personal - more like diaries or notes - this is a current trend that I don't see waning any time soon.

    2. More emotive/emotional - lines/drawings will become more emotion based - even if the image isn't "logical". Also more text/image juxtapositions and maybe hybridization of comic with storybook/magazine formats.

    3. More open/clarity/clean line books where you can actually see what's going on.Simplicity - but not at the cost of sophistication.

    4. Possibly more 3D comics (Like The Dreamland Chronicles)

    5. More self contained one-offs that don't require serious dedication

    6. Possibly more intriguing visuals that begin to play with space and metaphors etc.This will be a definite possibility for the digital reading space.

    7. A return to more classical illustration styles (not classic comic a la 60's marvel, more Arthur Rackham or Walter Crane) - where there is a lot of detail in the images.

    8. A mash up reflecting current culture - pulled from culture, rather than previous pop/comic influences.

    9. Possibly some more painterly things.

  • right on guys- knowing your audience is key, especially for nitch market books

     

    as to why SP didn't catch on with the Christian community.  I think it's because it still isn't an all ages book.  While I would say it is more accessible to all ages than other books- cursing doesn't expand past pg-13, maybe even pg, there are elements that I don't think the Christian community could endorse.

     

    but with a name like "Pilgrim" it would have been a good call.

    Sven, I think you could make a good point about the unlikely hero/Christian aspect if you pursued that more.  would be a good Bible study- and I think you could reference SP in it.

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