As an artist, must learn to draw anatomy and the human figure. One of the ways to draw it is to learn to draw from life, including drawing nude figures. I have been studying nude figures from photographs like the ones in http://www.fineartnude.com/ ( you must be 18 to get into this site and must not have a problem with lust), though I have not drawn from a real life model face to face. The nudes in this site are artistically and tastefully done. In an artist's standards, they are not porn.Matthew 5: 28 says " Anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart". So as long as we don't think of anything naughty while studying nude figures is okay. A good illustration would be a Christian doctor or a male Christian gynecologist to be more specific. Would it be a sin if this doctor will look at a woman's private parts but not think of any lustful things? I mean it's a profession, right? Someone has to do it.Well that's what I think. What do you guys think? So if anyone out there who has opinions, violent reactions, or simply just wanna ban me from CCAS is welcome to join this discussion.
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Drawing from nude models isn't necessarily for the purpose of creating artwork. It's a recommended practice for drawing people. If you're an art student, the vast majority of nude model drawings you produce will never be put on display or published.
It's a good question. I think that we should normaly have no problem with the nude because our body was created by God and it's a holy things. The devil try to turn it into a rubbish things. Many times when we saw nude, we immediatly thinks about porn, lust or else. But that's a wrong way, it's a evil way teach by Satan since we was born.
Now it depend of the christian. He has to ask himself, Can I draw nude without lust in me? Can I do this without fall into tentation? Can I be a gynecologist without fall into sin? Jesus said that if you have a problem with your eyes, hand or feet, you just have to cut them. In fact if you've got a problem with nude just cut it but if you've no problem it mean simply that you have overcome this. Jesus has overcome this why not us?
P.S: Concerning your question on gynecologiste, I will say to you No. It's not a sin (as long as he hasn't lust), it's a medical things and woman need it otherwise they will have some problems. God has created gynecologiste for the health.
I use a photo reference guide for artist and all the models were somewhat clothed. The men wore tight shorts and the females wore tight shorts and a sports bra. If its just a single form in a pose and its done tastefully, its probrably not gonna be a problem. I think the problem is when you have more than one person poseing.
I went to art school at the School of Visual Arts in New York, and it was a great program. They had, like most art schools, drawing from the nude classes. The models were not exactly sexy, and I personally didn't want to see them naked a lot of the times! That isn't the point of those kinds of classes, of course. I think that artists are expected to be very clinical about the way they "see" the models, and I think most everybody fell in line with those expectations. One thing I really couldn't stop thinking is, "why do I have to see the model's private areas in order to draw the human body?". The truth is that I don't believe one needs to see the entire nude. In fact, it takes more skill to draw the clothed body. I kind of laugh though when I remember those classes. There were a lot of gay guys in the class who were pretty flamboyant. Whenever we had a male nude come in who had some muscle on him, it was like they became a bunch of giddy geese. I think they really enjoyed it. Still, what is so unsophisticated about underwear?
Spike > Christopher HeidtFebruary 26, 2008 at 10:08am
I have taken life drawing classes with nude models, when the opportunity was available. I agree, not everybody looks sexy, but you do have to look at a variety of figure styles.
Christopher Heidt mentioned that "There were a lot of gay guys in the class who were pretty flamboyant. Whenever we had a male nude come in who had some muscle on him, it was like they became a bunch of giddy geese."
IMHO, this type of behavior was inappropriate. Models do not need gawking or subtle harassment from students, regardless of their orientation. Students generally find that they have to concentrate so hard on lines and shadows, they forget that they are looking at a naked person. But that does not mean they have to be rude to the model.
I thank you all for all your replies. I just wanted you all to know that I just use such references for my self and don't show them to anyone. I needed such images to make my art more realistic and natural.
I also use the Poser software, but sometimes the muscles are flexing the wrong way in this program. Well it's still a good tool and I actually call it my digital dummy.
There are a lot of good books about anatomy out there, but I don't use such books that teaches you how to draw Japanese and Western comic book characters. They are actually have exaggerated proportions that's why I use what God created.
I went to art school and when it came to drawing nude models I didn't feel any moral conflict over the matter. It was part of my schooling and a necessity as an artist in training. When I had my first nude model actually in front of me (a young lady) I wasnt filled with uncontrolable lust or great crushing feeling that I was sinning. There was some uncomfortable embarrassment for me but after a few moments drawing a naked person was no different than drawing a bowl of fruit or any other object I was required to draw.
My point is, if you're trying to master your artistic craft you'll be able to separate yourself from your subject matter. If you are unable to do that then you are probably doing something wrong and that's when you move onto something else.
If you still feel yourself in a moral quandry then I suggest getting this program. Poser Figure Artist ..it's not perfect and a pale stand-in to a real live model but you can pose a 3D human figure and they have a convenient button that allows you to turn on or off the appearance of any, uh, shall we say "reproductive organs".
Agreed that anatomy studies are VITAL to learning studio art, but at the same time, you can study the human figure without complete nudity. I went to a small liberal arts school (that no one has ever heard of) called Cameron University, in southern Oklahoma, and I had "life drawing" courses for two semesters. Possibly being a smaller, more modest school, they had models, but the models would wear bathing suits/bikinis. In these suits, there was still the opportunity to get a good subject matter for illustration. You still learned enough about drawing the human form, with it's contrasts and light, without having to resort to full nudity. The teacher also focused on variations like hands/feet, faces/hair, etc, which I thought was a smart move.
Thanks for opening this discussion. I've been thinking about it too. As I am being trained in animation, learning to draw human anatomy in different poses is very important, and to some extent we need to know how to draw the muscular groups, fat folds, etc. as well, so clothed models may not be able to provide such 'exposure' (pun intended). Knowing how to draw the muscle groups etc. is necessary if you're doing things like superhero comics where the heroes often wear skin-tight spandex even though they may not be in the buff.
I haven't got to the stage where we're drawing live models (nude or skimpily clothed) but I know I would be rather uncomfortable with doing so, and am even considering requesting permission to skip classes if they are drawing nudes. Currently I'm using photo reference books that I managed to find where the models are clothed (in tight fitting tank tops and spandex) and cartoon anatomy books where there's no nudity. I'd go with Matt about it being too fine a line to cross, especially for guys as we are more affected visually.
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Now it depend of the christian. He has to ask himself, Can I draw nude without lust in me? Can I do this without fall into tentation? Can I be a gynecologist without fall into sin? Jesus said that if you have a problem with your eyes, hand or feet, you just have to cut them. In fact if you've got a problem with nude just cut it but if you've no problem it mean simply that you have overcome this. Jesus has overcome this why not us?
P.S: Concerning your question on gynecologiste, I will say to you No. It's not a sin (as long as he hasn't lust), it's a medical things and woman need it otherwise they will have some problems. God has created gynecologiste for the health.
Christopher Heidt mentioned that "There were a lot of gay guys in the class who were pretty flamboyant. Whenever we had a male nude come in who had some muscle on him, it was like they became a bunch of giddy geese."
IMHO, this type of behavior was inappropriate. Models do not need gawking or subtle harassment from students, regardless of their orientation. Students generally find that they have to concentrate so hard on lines and shadows, they forget that they are looking at a naked person. But that does not mean they have to be rude to the model.
I also use the Poser software, but sometimes the muscles are flexing the wrong way in this program. Well it's still a good tool and I actually call it my digital dummy.
There are a lot of good books about anatomy out there, but I don't use such books that teaches you how to draw Japanese and Western comic book characters. They are actually have exaggerated proportions that's why I use what God created.
I have a tutorial at
http://www.blazedent.com/drawingtutorials/tutorial_1_2.php
I did this way back in 2004 and I never thought it still online.
I went to art school and when it came to drawing nude models I didn't feel any moral conflict over the matter. It was part of my schooling and a necessity as an artist in training. When I had my first nude model actually in front of me (a young lady) I wasnt filled with uncontrolable lust or great crushing feeling that I was sinning. There was some uncomfortable embarrassment for me but after a few moments drawing a naked person was no different than drawing a bowl of fruit or any other object I was required to draw.
My point is, if you're trying to master your artistic craft you'll be able to separate yourself from your subject matter. If you are unable to do that then you are probably doing something wrong and that's when you move onto something else.
If you still feel yourself in a moral quandry then I suggest getting this program. Poser Figure Artist ..it's not perfect and a pale stand-in to a real live model but you can pose a 3D human figure and they have a convenient button that allows you to turn on or off the appearance of any, uh, shall we say "reproductive organs".
I haven't got to the stage where we're drawing live models (nude or skimpily clothed) but I know I would be rather uncomfortable with doing so, and am even considering requesting permission to skip classes if they are drawing nudes. Currently I'm using photo reference books that I managed to find where the models are clothed (in tight fitting tank tops and spandex) and cartoon anatomy books where there's no nudity. I'd go with Matt about it being too fine a line to cross, especially for guys as we are more affected visually.
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